Groovy. Scott and I are certainly interested in making a trip down there to coincide with yours, and any spare time you may have, I shall take you to oh, Japantown, or Chinatown, or Golden Gate Park (teahouse)...^__^ BART is almost always easier than driving (have you stopped at a light that is nearly vertical? It sucks...^^;) So, yes. Woot. We shall make some tenative plans to do our SF trip around that time, if possible...nothing set in stone yet....